Traeth Bach New Bridge and Road

ARTICLE FROM THE NORTH WALES CHRONICLE, Saturday December 31, 1953.

TRAETH BACH NEW BRIDGE AND ROAD

IMPROVED COMMUNICATION BETWEEN CARNARVONSHIRE AND MERIONETHSHIRE

A meeting of those interested in this project was called by circular and held on Friday, the 16th at the Market Hall, Port Madoc.  The attendance was numerous, and included a large number of landed proprietors and their representatives, including W W E Wynne Esq., M.P.,  Messrs R A Poole, Carnarvon;  David Williams, Bron Eryri; George Casson, Festiniog;  John Casson, ditto; N  Mathew, Wern;  J W Greaves, Tanyrallt;  N N Solly, Bronygarth;  Walter H Blackden; Brynmawr, Tanybwlch; Robert Barker, Glyn;  Edward Barker, ditto;  Samuel Holland, Plas yn Penrhyn;  Richard O Poole, Cae Nest;  James  Spooner, Morfa Lodge;  Capt. Thomas, Caerffynnon, Talsarnau;  G Jones, Penrallt;  J. H. Jones, ditto;  John Jones Ynysgain;  Rev J Williams Ellis, Glasfryn;  Rev R Davies, Llanenddwyn;  Messrs John Walker, Hendregadog;  A McMorrine, Port Madoc;  William Jones, surgeon, ditto; G Griffiths, ditto; Lewis Lloyd, Festiniog;  John Rae, Oakeley Arms Hotel, TanyBwlch;  Hugh Roberts, Harlech;  Hugh Hughes, druggist, ditto;  John Lloyd, Brwynllwyni;  -- Perrot, Llansantffraid;  G H Owen, Ymwlch;  J Stanier Jones, Port Madoc;  W T M Williams, ditto;  Owen Jones, Maentwrog; Rees Lloyd, Llechwedd-don;  Robert Mathew, Harlech;  John Griffith, Tyddyndu;  Edmund Griffith, ditto;  William Parry, Cilbronrhyd, Llanbedr;  D Williams, Borthwenbach;  W E Morris, Port Madoc; W Lloyd, draper, ditto;  Edward Jones, post office, ditto;  R Jones, draper, ditto; John Griffith, Criccieth etc.

W W E Wynne, Esq. M.P. for the County of Merioneth, was unanimously called upon to preside.  He said that having been requested to take the chair, he would begin by regretting the absence of Colonel  Pennant, the member for Carnarvonshire, who would have filled the position with  much more ability and effect than himself.  (Cheers)   The object for which they had met certainly affected, to a great extent, the interests of the county of Merioneth – more especially one large and material part of it – for instance, the whole of Dyffryn Ardudwy, and in fact the country throughout as far as, or even beyond Barmouth.  Under these circumstances he very willingly consented to their request. With the object of the meeting they were all, of course, acquainted.  There might be gentlemen present who supposed that, probably, the contemplated work would be injurious to their interests.  If he believed himself that the project would act detrimentally to a large body of the inhabitants and landowners in Merionethshire, particularly in that part where he had received such great kindness, he should be sorry to occupy his present position.  But, as far as he was able to understand the question, he must differ from those who held that it would operate against Tanybwlch and that neighbourhood;  whilst, on the other hand, there was no doubt that a vast benefit would accrue to Harlech, and the districts surrounding it.  (Cheers)  He had not an acre of land himself in the Hundred of Ardudwy, and, therefore he might be deemed a disinterested party.  He only wished that the work when completed, would be productive of beneficial results generally, amongst those who had reposed in him the important trust he then held, as their representative in parliament.  He produced a paper, got up by the inhabitants of Barmouth, without any communication with him, in support of the project.  They were of opinion that it would prove of incalculable benefit to the country at large.  About a week ago, Mr Ormsby Gore, a large landowner in the neighbourhood had written to him, expressing his hopes that he would be able to attend; but the following  note would show that other engagements had precluded him :-         Porkington, Dec.13 1853   My dear Sir, - It is quite out of the question my being able to attend the meeting at Port Madoc on Friday.  I fully concur in the advantage to be gained by a bridge and road, where projected; but confess I should prefer contributing to a fund to embank the mouth of the Traeth.  However, as it is, I shall be happy to subscribe to the present undertaking, and to take shares if it is to be completed by a company – which, I should suggest, would be the most eligible way – taking powers under the act of parliament to take tolls on the bridge to the full amount of reimbursing the shareholders.  When you let me see the amount subscribed by each person attending, I shall be able to say what you affix to my name.  The amount would be larger for the embankment than for a bridge. I am very much engaged at present, arranging the terms of leasing our railroad, which detains me in Shropshire.   Yours faithfully,        W. ORMSBY GORE.

Robert Barker, Esq., Glyn. Several resolutions would be proposed, and the subject would be explained to the meeting by those who were better acquainted with the locality than he was.  He would, therefore, call on Mr Poole to move the first resolution.

Mr R A Poole of Carnarvon, said, Mr Chairman and Gentlemen – Before I proceed to move the first resolution, I think it advisable that, as I have taken an active part in the matter, I should advert to a few questions connected with the origin and progress of the proposition to be laid before this meeting.  I think it quite unnecessary on this occasion to dwell on all the details, and much less to enter into, with any prolixity, the circumstances and nature of the defective communication between the two counties of Carnarvon and Merioneth.  There are very probably some persons present who have witnessed accidents, and fatal accidents too, which have occurred in crossing the Traeth, and all are, doubtless, aware of the destruction of property that is so frequently taking place.  I think I shall not be going too far, therefore, when I say that the present defective communication is certainly the “monster grievance” between North and South Wales   (hear, hear).   Passing over circumstances with which you are all so very well acquainted, and which, therefore, it is superfluous to dwell upon, I wish to say I fully concur with the honourable member for Merionethshire, in the unwillingness which he expressed that this project should operate at all injuriously to the property, or I would even say annoyingly to the feelings, of any individual whatever;  much less that excellent and worthy lady whom we know as the proprietor of the Tanybwlch estate (cheers).   In works of a public nature like this we may always expect to have opposition, at least some show of it, but I am not without hopes that if any opposition is attributable to her it may not prove of a very forcible character.  I must, however, in the first place, beg leave to advert to those gentlemen resident in Tanybwlch, Maentwrog, and the neighbourhood, who see awful and impending ruin in our present project.  I perceive my friend, Mr Lewis Lloyd, is very much affected (laughter).   Tanybwlch and Maentwrog as we all know, are places highly gifted with the beauties of nature, which have also been greatly improved by the judicious applications of art.  They will, therefore, always be specially sought out by tourists; and we are all aware, I do not believe any one from Tanybwlch is prepared to deny the fact, - that summer tourists seeking the attractions of the country are the most profitable description of travellers (hear).   Looking over the visitors’ book at Tanybwlch a few days ago, I found a paragraph in it, which, as it speaks the sentiments of parties who may be supposed much more impartial judges than myself, I will read “September 24, 25, 26, 27, 1853.  Decidedly the prettiest spot, the finest scenery, the best fishing, and by far the most comfortable inn in Wales.”  (Cheers) I quite agree with this, and I think there is at least one gentleman present who will also concur – I mean the landlord of Tanybwlch Hotel, Mr Rae.  (Laughter and cheers).  Such being the case, I am quite sure that there will always be a great deal of remunerative travelling, whatever effect a direct business route by the projected bridge at Traeth Bach may have.   I have also heard apprehensions expressed that commercial travellers would pass by and avoid Tanybwlch.  I don’t think that many go there at present; but I am very much inclined to dispute that position.  I look at a commercial traveller, not as a person seeking the most direct road over the country, like a fox hunter, but as one whose object it is to hunt out business to fill his order book, his day book, and ledger (cheers).  I have met them at places which may be termed the Ultima Thule of civilisation, such as Cerrigydrudion, and other parts thereabouts.  With them it is all a matter of pounds, shillings and pence, and they do not care for the slight inconvenience of a slight detour out of the road.  But I think we are entitled to take higher ground than any of these.  Notwithstanding this slight injury, and I do think, hope, and believe, that it would be very slight, if any, still it would by no means be fair that the public travelling on business should be put to the necessity of adopting one of two inconvenient alternative, merely to go round to view that beautiful  scenery which they have had ample opportunities of seeing before.  The difference in the distance between the direct road by the bridge contemplated and the present circuit, will be from six to seven miles – if I am wrong, perhaps some gentleman will correct me.  I am thus circumstantial in mentioning the distance because I have heard it reported that a circuit of three miles only would be saved.  Now, as no one contradicts the statement made that there would be a saving in distance of six miles and a half, or thereabouts, I will assume that no contradiction can be given.  Then I ask is it reasonable, is it fair and equitable, that persons who have a continual business in agriculture and in commercial travelling, who have pressing occasion for a speedy transit in this part, should be forced (for it is forced that they are) round by Tanybwlch and Maentwrog, merely for the sake of supporting one hotel of one village (hear)?  In saying this I hope no party present will take offence, as none is meant.  I have stated this much as to the proposal itself.  I now think it only fair to mention some other grounds of opposition, or rather difference of opinion, communicated to me by individuals whose position and property entitle them to every respect.  The first is, that if a bridge were built from below Bron Eryri Ynys Giftan, and an embankment constructed from this point o Tygwyn, the advantage would be much greater than can be gained by the project now contemplated.  I never disputed that.  On the contrary, the strongest personal motives would induce me to support it, were it practicable in a pecuniary point of view; a fact upon which I feel serious doubts.  It has been said that the land reclaimed would be very productive.  I am glad of it, as a great part of it would be mine.  But I think it is a question whether it could be embanked, properly reclaimed, and made good land in anything like reasonable time to enable us to offer fair security for the money to be advanced (if we could get any) in support of the scheme.  The second difference of opinion is that a railway will soon be made into this country, and when that takes place, any measures that may now be carried into effect for perfecting the comm-unication between this town and the other side will be entirely thrown away.  I cannot agree with that oopinion, because from the best information I can collect, I think that if a railway is brought as far as Port Madoc, it is not at all likely to be carried further, at all events not in the present generation.  Even if it were continued south of Port Madoc, and towards Barmouth, it must take the most direct line, not at Ynys Giftan, but probably a good deal lower down by Penrhyn to Tygwyn; and thus the absorbing influence of a parallel railway would be so far removed from the locality of our project bridge that but little effect is to be apprehended from it.  Again, there never would be a station, after leaving Port Madoc, so close as Tygwyn, barely two or three miles – but probably somewhere down in the nflats of Dyffryn beyond Harlech, eight miles off; Port Madoc being still the point of resort.  This bridge would, therefore, remain intact in its interests and profits, notwith-standing any measure carried out by means of a railway.  Having thus referred to these collateral matters, I will now proceed to state what the present position of the business is.  I am sorry to say that, having well considered the subject, and consulted many others more conversant with matters of this kind that myself, it seems quite clear that no legal objection exists to any measure except an Act of Parliament, inasmuch as it concerns the rights of the Crown, in regard to the navigation of the river Dwyryd.  It will, therefore, be requisite to have a clause barring those rights, and consequently an Act will be the safest; though not the cheapest mode.  I daresay that many gentlemen who have not had the experience I have in Parliamentary matters, will be surprised when nI state that it is quite impracticable to do anything in the way of having an Act of Parliament, without a purse of from five to six hundred pounds, even for out of pocket expenses.  Being, as you know, very particularly interested from the position, certainly not from the extent of my property, in one terminus of this bridge, I have thought it – I will not say my duty, for I claim no merit – but my personal interest to improve that property, which object I think will be effected by the bridge.  Under these circumstances I thought it only fair, being in the profession, to state that all the country department of the business I will willingly undertake free of any professional charge whatever (great cheering).   I think it proper to observe that the amount of these expenses would have been, if made out in the regular shape of a Parliamentary bill, £200 or £250.  However, as nobody values lawyer’s work much (laughter), I am not disposed to set a fictitious value upon it myself.  Therefore, suffice it to say, that I willingly give it, whatever it may be, as my contribution, together with my land, and perhaps – when the time comes for declaring subscriptions – something more (loud cheers).  I think there cannot be a doubt, that the beneficial influence of this measure will not be local.  I was not aware, until informed by the honourable member for Merionethshire, that any requisition or expression of opinion had emanated from Barmouth, or any other place:  but if any exertions had been made to spread more widely the notice that this meeting was to take place, I have no doubt, that the table, as it is often said in Parliamentary phraseology, would have groaned un the weight of similar documentation.    ?????????????? Certain preliminary expenses – not of great amount, and still not insignificant – have been incurred by my friend, Captain Thomas, and myself.  If Captain Thomas had not been present, I would have said a great deal more of his enterprise and liberality than I do to his face (great cheering).  Those expenses have been incurred in surveys, depositing plans, and other matters with which I need not trouble the meeting.  It is enough to say, that our deposits have been made, our bill is drawn, and we are all ready with an overwhelming list of assents.  It rests, I believe, with this meeting then to say whether the project is to be dropped today, or whether it is to be proceeded with.  Now, I am, as before said, a small landed proprietor myself  - but when I look at the extent of country which this measure will benefit, when I see that its good effect, will extend from Harlech, even from Barmouth, on the south to Pwllheli, or at all events the whole of Eifionydd, on the north and west – when I see that this benefit will be diffused through the whole tract of that country – when I see too that that country is possessed by large and wealthy proprietors, gentlemen who are generally to backward in performing those duties which property casts upon them, - when I see that it is occupied by a very improving, industrious and, I am happy to say, thriving tenancy, it appears almost impossible to doubt that we shall be able to carry out the present project to a successful issue.   (loud cheers).  Mr Poole concluded by moving that first resolution, which has already appeared in our paper.

Mr Samuel Holland, Plas Penrhyn, had very great pleasure in seconding the resolution.  Living, as he did, almost in sight of the Traeth, he could not but express  surprise that this project had not been carried out years ago.  He had witnessed numerous accidents in crossing those sand, not fatal ones certainly, although, as Mr Poole had stated, such had taken place.   A great number of people were continually disappointed in not being able to cross, or after having once gone over, in not being able to return the same day.  Seeing this had convinced him that, not only was there a great necessity for a bridge over the Traeth, but that as a speculation it would be a remunerative one.  (Hear).  He had made observations for some years – not merely since the present project had been talked of – as to the amount of traffic between this port and the other side.  Now, to say nothing of the continual transit with all sorts of carriages, it would, perhaps, be scarcely credited by those who had not themselves witnessed the fact, that between Ynys Giftan and the rocks from which this bridge was intended to be thrown over, no fewer than five boats were constantly employed in ferrying people over.  On an average he found that the owner of each boat earned 1s 6d per day, which would be £25 per annum.  Putting the receipts of the five boats together, the amount was £125 per year – all, be it remembered, for carrying foot passengers, who, if there was a bridge, would, no doubt, avail themselves of the convenience.  There were, in addition, a great number who waded across, upon all of whom they might also calculate, for he was sure they would gladly pay a penny or two for a safe, dry, and comfortable was over the bridge.  It also appeared that the guides employed generally took no less than £30 a year.  Moreover, it was well known that a number of boats were engaged to ferry people over from Port Madoc to the other side; and not only was it inconvenient, but occasionally dangerous to parties who had to walk over the sands.  He thought that they might fairly calculate on one-third of the money paid for crossing with those boats for parties would, doubtless, go a little additional distance rather than subject themselves to be impeded and turned back by the tide.  At the present time, parties coming over to fairs and markets were obliged to calculate the state of the water, and frequently were obliged to leave at an inconvenient time, in order to be able to cross.  All these things taken into consideration, he thought showed the absolute necessity there was for a bridge, and that it was certain to be well supported, if once it was erected.  He believed, however, that they were all acquainted with the Traeth, and therefore it was unnecessary for him further to point out the great inconveniences of crossing.

The other project referred to, that of making an embankment in connection with a bridge at Ynys Giftan, he hoped would never be accomplished.  He thought it would be extremely impolitic as regarded the interests of the port, and he, therefore, trusted that proposition would be abandoned in favour of the bridge now contemplated, which was so desirable in every respect.  All nautical men would be able at once to understand that any obstruction across the Traeth would prevent the flow of water, and so lessen the depth upon the bar.  He believed such was the result to a certain extent by the erection of the present great embankment across the Traeth Mawr, as well as in other places where similar works had taken place, both in England and Ireland.  In one port on the west coast of Ireland, where vessels drawing 20 feet water could previously enter, the body of water upon the bar had been so much lessened in consequence of some works which were called “improvements”, that vessels of only seven feet could now scarcely be brought in.  Similar effects had been also produced in the River Dee, where different improvements had caused the depth of water to be lessened, so that vessels of a certain draft which formerly could have gone up, could not at the present time.  He concurred with Mr Poole that, after all, parties residing in Tanybwlch and Maentwrog would suffer no material injury, for it was well known that summer travellers always made Tanybwlch a place of resort; and the spot being mentioned in every guide book, would still, just the same as before, be sought out by every tourist.  Mercantile men, travelling in the way of business, were sure to go there, because they had a greater extent of business in the locality than probably in any other part of the county of Merioneth.  They were not very likely therefore to cut off that corner with a view of expediting their journey through the county.  As for Port Madoc, the benefits that it would derive from a bridge over Traeth Bach, were most important; for it would be the means of increasing traffic between the two counties, and of making business intercourse much more speedy and effective than at present.  He had no doubt that the inhabitants of Port Madoc, who were generally alive to any improvement offered to them, would come forward liberally on this occasion;  and as the beneficial results of the measure would extend to many other places, he trusted also they would not be behind.  The spirited lime burners of this port had already reduced the price of lime so considerably  that parties from the extreme point of Trawsfynydd parish, and the upper part of Festiniog parish, at the present time brought their carts to fetch this material for agricultural and other purposes.  They could not always return over the Traeth the same day, unless they live close by, in consequence of the tides; but if there was a bridge, they could suit their own convenience, and make more than one journey in a day.  It was evident from what was not taking place that with a abridge, parties would come from districts still more remote.  Repeating his hope that the public affected by the measure would come forward with general liberality, Mr Holland begged to second the resolution, and sat down amidst loud cheering.

 Mr Lewis Lloyd, Festiniog, said – I really do not believe that anybody can object to this project according to the statements of Mr Poole and Mr Holland:  because it appears to me that the bridge will be good for nothing except to carry people, instead of being carried in boats, and to be looked at.  (Laughter)  It seems people will go to Tanybwlch just the same;  but I recommend Mr Rae to keep that paper read by Mr Poole as an ornament to his house: for I believe he will never have another.  (laughter)  There was nothing at all said about the navigation – how are the boats to go up? - and when the height to which the floods which we have every year – not occasionally, but every year – when this is considered, I do say that some explanation should be given.  The boats cannot go up, and the water cannot return, although the flow is weak enough already, and the injury to property is now every year very extensive.  I would ask whether it is not in contemplation to construct a road to Garreg Penargyffin?  I don’t care about the bridge, but as for this road, I say it will materially injure Maentwrog and Tanybwlch.  I oppose it on public grounds, for it will not make a farthing of difference to me personally.  Will Mr Poole or Mr David Williams declare that what I have referred to is not contemplated?  About 14 or 16 years ago the road was surveyed, and there was a meeting held at Tanybwlch on the subject.  I then subscribed £50 towards it (hear, hear and laughter), because everybody subscribed; but next day I withdrew my subscription, and opposed it, because I was persuaded it would have done harm.

Mr Poole – so you saved your £50.   (Laughter) Mr Lloyd – It saved me more than that.  Let the promoters of this measure say that that road is not in contemplation.  This bridge is only the beginning of the evil.  (Laughter) Mr Poole – Look at the parliamentary notices.  It is not in our power to alter them, or to make a road not named there. Mr Holland said that if the bridge were made, other improvements would, no doubt, follow.  He certainly hoped things would not stand still:  but whether a road to Garreg Penargyffin or any other place in connection with the bridge was contemplated, he did not know. Mr D Williams, Broneryri, said that a public road could not be made except by act of parliament; and Mr Lloyd would have the opportunity when it was                                ????????                 in the present notice. Mr Lloyd said he had no doubt that the Penargyffin road could be constructed without an act, for all the owners of the property, except one, had consented to it. Mr Williams, replying to Mr Lloyd’s question, said – As far as I am concerned, I will not pledge myself to anything.  If, after this bridge is made, I can be instrumental in promoting such an improvement as the construction of a road to Garreg Penargyffin, or anywhere else, I’ll do so: and I shall always back all other public improvements.  (Cheeers)

Mr Poole said perhaps he was irregular in not waiting until this part of the business was over before replying to Mr Lloyd.  He (Mr Poole) would, however, take that opportunity, as perhaps most convenient, to say that the propositions for the intended bridge were these : -  The bridge hitherto planned for this had been one with a stone arch, or rather two stone arches, of fifty feet span each; the centre of which would be the only place under which the boats could take advantage of the full height.  The plan at present proposed was one not very generally known in this country, and he only hoped it would soon be more widely understood and appreciated;  for, in his opinion, it was a description of bridge peculiarly suitable to Wales, both from it mechanism and economy.  The patent was in the possession of Messrs Dredge and Stephenson.  It would be a suspension bridge, something similar in form, but not quite so in principle, to the Menai Bridge.  Being flat, with a height of say twenty or twenty four feet above high water, boats could go freely under  all of it.  The spans would be two of fifty feet each, or, if thought more advisable, one of a hundred feet.  He should prefer the latter.  (Cheers)  This kind of bridge would, he thought, unquestionably meet every objection that could be urged on the score of injury to the navigation, or obstruction of backwater.  He had always been an advocate for protecting free navigation everywhere, however trifling and unimportant it might appear to be;  and was very glad to see the Lords of the Admiralty, though at the eleventh hour, taking up the matter earnestly, as had been done in respect to the Straits of Menai.  There was no doubt that the Admiralty would look very sharply after the promoters of the bridge in this respect; and therefore any anxiety which Mr Lloyd might have from this source, might safely be dismissed from his mind.  (Hear)

The resolution was then put and carried with acclamation.

Mr D Williams moved the second resolution.  Feeling it was quite unnecessary for him to add to the observations already made in support of the project before the meeting, he considered that the best speech he could make at the present time was to name the amount of subscriptions for which he would be answerable on the part of the estates he represented.  These were the Tre Madoc estate, £100, the Gorsygedol estate, £100, and the Maesyneuadd estate £40.  (Loud cheers)   As to what he would subscribe himself, he would take the example of the Hon.Member for North Shropshire (Mr Ormsby Gore) – wait to see what others would give;  and afterwards, if the funds were short, he would subscribe in proportion to the extent of his property, to make good the deficiency. (Hear and cheers)

The resolution, having been seconded by the Rev J W Ellis, was carried.

Mr Poole said that he could not help complimenting Mr Williams on the excellency of his speech, however short (hear),  for a speech ending as it did with the presentation of £240 towards a public undertaking, was certainly very good.  (Cheers)   He was going to make a speech only about half as good (Laughter), but he would not declare his “list of subscriptions”.  First of all he would read the following letter :-         Penrhyn Castle, Dec. 6 1853 “My dear Sir, -  I fear that I shall be unable to attend the meeting at Port Madoc on the 16th, about the proposed bridge and road, but I shall be happy to render every assistance in my power in carrying into effect an object which will be of such material advantage to that part of the county.  In case a subscription should be set on foot for the purpose of  defraying the preliminary expenses, I shall be obliged to you to enter my name for £50.          “Believe me, yours truly,                           “ R A Poole, Esq.       E G D Pennant”

Mr Poole continued : - Very handsome in his opinion from a gentleman who might be said to have scarcely any local interest – none in respect of property in the county of Merioneth;  but that was Col.Pennant’s general practice when any public improvement was to be attained.   (Applause) The other sums he had to announce were himself for £30, his son R O Poole, for £20, and Mr Bulkeley Hughes, M.P. for the Carnarvonshire Boroughs, £10.  (General cheers).

Mr Gee Casson, in moving the third resolution,  observed that much had been said about the bridge in question every since he could remember.  The desirability of the project could not be denied.  Possibly a few interests might suffer; but when so vast a public benefit was to be attained, he thought the few individual interests should in some measure yield.  (Head and cheers).  He had no doubt that those who were now opposed to this project would ultimately, seeing that there could be no well-grounded opposition, give way.  There would no doubt be legal and parliamentary difficulties in carrying out the proposition.  9Hear)  He had great pleasure inn referring to the kindness and liberality of Mr Poole.  The measure could not be placed in abler hands, and he was sure the meeting felt greatly indebted to that gentleman.  (Cheers)   Mr Casson concluded by expressing his ardent wishes that the project might be carried out to the full extent.

The resolution was seconded by Mr J Jones, Ynysgain, and carried unanimously.

Mr D Williams said that the handsome manner in which the hon. Member for the county of Carnarvon, Colonel Pennant, and the hon. Member for the Boroughs, William Bulkeley Hughes Esq., had come forward, deserved the thanks of the meeting, and he moved that they should be presented accordingly.  He believed the hon. Colonel had not an inch of land in Merionethshire.

Mr Mathew seconded the proposition, which was affirmed amidst loud cheers. Mr R Barker, Glyn, moved the next resolution. Mr Mathew seconded.  The only hesitation he felt in coming forward to take part in these proceedings was that arising from the fact of his not being a landed proprietor.  He had, however, a considerable stake in this immediate neighbourhood, as well as in the county of Merioneth, and he had witnessed the effects of good roads too long, and passed a considerable part of his life in a place where he experienced the fruits of such advantages in the improvement of property, not to aid, by every means in his power, in promoting a measure of public importance like the present.  (Cheers) It might be considered perhaps more particularly to the advantage of the landlord, but he contended that it would also be to the great benefit of the occupier, to whom the convenience of having a good, easy road to carry his produce to the market, was a matter of the greatest importance inasmuch as in that case he could do with two horses that which, otherwise, would require three. Was not this an object of importance?   (Cheers)  He had pointed out this fact when, on one occasion, he had the honour to represent Mr Huddart before the Commissioners for the Commutation of Tithe.  He (Mr Mathew) endeavoured to induce all the farmers with whom he came in contact to improve the roads to their farms, and as in many places there was not sufficient work for the men, he suggested that their time should be thus filled up to the amount of the weekly wages, and in doing this, urged the importance of a facile means of conveying their corn to market. He concurred entirely with the observations already addressed to the meeting, believing that nothing could conduce more to the benefit of the neighbourhood than the proposed bridge and road.  (Great cheering)

The Chairman having announced his subscription of £20, expressed his conviction, that no fears need be entertained that this bridge would injure the navigation or the property contiguous to the river by blocking up the water.  On the other hand, he was of opinion that the embankment from Ynysgiftan would operate injuriously as far as Merionethshire was concerned, and to the wharves below.  He therefore considered the latter only another reason why they should agree to the measure now proposed.  Perhaps it was not proper to specify names, but he considered the meeting were highly indebted to Mr Poole for his activity and liberality.  (Cheers)

Mr Poole said that he had taken up the matter as a landed proprietor, wishing to improve his own property.  It was very gratifying to find that the public also would benefit by the same improvement which benefitted himself;  but he would say that he was not entitled to any credit whatever on that account.  (Great cheering)

Mr Holland said there were other gentlemen whom he believed might be called, one the originator, and the other the supporter, of the present measure, and who had already come forward with the most praiseworthy liberality in support of Mr Poole – he alluded to Capt. Thomas and Mr Williams.  He moved that the thanks of the meeting be given to those gentlemen.  (Loud cheers)

Mr Williams said he was proud of being associated with Capt. Thomas and Mr Poole in promoting the present important measure.  As it was in his power to do comparatively little, but little thanks were due to him.  He was ready, however, to do everything in his power.  On one side the road was carried through his land and this he cheerfully gave for nothing.   (Applause)

The motion having been seconded in an appropriate address by the Rev J Williams Ellis, was put by the chairman, to the effect that the thanks of the meeting be given to Mr Poole, Mr Williams and Capt. Thomas, and carried unanimously.

Capt. Thomas briefly returned thanks for the kind mention of his name, and subscribed the sum of £50.  A number of gentlemen declared the amount of their subscriptions.  Mr Wynne then quitted the chair, which was afterwards occupied by Mr Williams.

Mr Holland moved a vote of thanks to the hon.member for the part he had taken in the meeting and expressed a hope that the promoters of this undertaking might count upon his valuable services in support of the bill in parliament.  This was seconded by Mr Greaves and affirmed with applause.

The Chairman, in acknowledging the compliment, assured the meeting that anything he could do in parliament to advance the interests of the county of Merioneth, he should always endeavour to do with all his might;  and he should feel a pleasure in being able to make some return for confidence and kinness received both as a representative and in  every other respect.   (Loud cheering)

Mr Williams said he believed that a Merionethshire county member was never before seen at Port Madoc.  He proposed that the inhabitants should manifest their welcome by giving three cheers. These having been given, together with “one cheer more”, the meeting separated.

We understand that R A Poole, Esq., gave the land constituting the approach to the Bridge, on one side, and David Williams, Esq., (who is the only proprietor of the land through which the approach will go the whole length, being nearly a mile on the Carnarvonshire side of the estuary), gave that on the other.